{"id":350241,"date":"2026-02-09T18:11:02","date_gmt":"2026-02-09T18:11:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/?p=350241"},"modified":"2026-02-09T20:18:54","modified_gmt":"2026-02-09T20:18:54","slug":"jl-and-thorin-exchange-harsh-remarks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/en\/news\/jl-and-thorin-exchange-harsh-remarks","title":{"rendered":"jL and Thorin exchange harsh remarks"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Another public conflict has flared up in the CS community \u2014 this time between analyst Thorin and player jL. The trigger was criticism of a Counter-Strike broadcast segment, after which the sides quickly moved from irony to direct insults.<\/p>\n<h2><strong>Background<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>Thorin, known for his sharp commentary style, published a post in which he spoke negatively about one of the CS broadcasts, comparing what he saw to a random actor appearing in a movie. The tweet quickly spread across social media and racked up tens of thousands of views, but most importantly \u2014 it provoked a public reaction from an active top-tier player.<\/p>\n\n<div class=\"article__content grid-cards-col xl-w-100\">\n    <p class=\"article-h3\">read more<\/p>\n    <div class=\"grid-1 gap-12 mb-12 load-parent xl-w-100\">\n        <div class=\"type3 y-red-dif hover-card card-more\">\n        <a class=\"type3__left up-to-card hover-el\" href=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/en\/news\/elfishguy-are-azr-story-flyquests-missing-pieces\">\n        <div class=\"bg-bottom-abs-short\"> <\/div>\n        <picture class=\"picture object-fit-cover\">\n            <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"picture__img object-fit-cover\" src=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/Main-x-Name-113.jpg.webp\" alt=\"Elfishguy: Are AZR &#038; Story FlyQuests missing pieces\">\n        <\/picture>\n    <\/a>\n        <div class=\"type3__right main-structure p-20\">\n        <div class=\"type3__top\">\n            <a class=\"type3__title title-24 hover-el\" href=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/en\/news\/elfishguy-are-azr-story-flyquests-missing-pieces\">Elfishguy: Are AZR &#038; Story FlyQuests missing pieces<\/a>\n            <a class=\"go-arrow hover-el\" href=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/en\/news\/elfishguy-are-azr-story-flyquests-missing-pieces\">\n                <div class=\"go-arrow__left go-arrow__part\">\n                    <svg class=\"icon\" width=\"24\" height=\"24\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\">\n                        <use xlink:href=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/themes\/skinclub-v3\/assets\/images\/sprites\/main.stack.svg?v=1779703590#image-blue-arrow\"><\/use>\n                    <\/svg>\n                <\/div>\n                <div class=\"go-arrow__center go-arrow__part\">\n                    <svg class=\"icon\" width=\"24\" height=\"24\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\">\n                        <use xlink:href=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/themes\/skinclub-v3\/assets\/images\/sprites\/main.stack.svg?v=1779703590#image-blue-arrow\"><\/use>\n                    <\/svg>\n                <\/div>\n                <div class=\"go-arrow__right go-arrow__part\">\n                    <svg class=\"icon\" width=\"24\" height=\"24\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\">\n                        <use xlink:href=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/themes\/skinclub-v3\/assets\/images\/sprites\/main.stack.svg?v=1779703590#image-blue-arrow\"><\/use>\n                    <\/svg>\n                <\/div>\n            <\/a><\/div>\n        <div class=\"type3__bottom blue-labels mt-auto\">\n            <div class=\"blue-label disabled\">Feb 09<\/div>\n            <a class=\"blue-label\" href=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/en\/news\">News<\/a>        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n<\/div>    <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<h2><strong>Thorin\u2019s sharp statement<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>The analyst wrote the following:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"custom-bq\"><div class=\"custom-bq-q\"><p>This new Adam Sandler movie where he lucks his way onto a CS broadcast looks shit.<\/p><\/div><\/blockquote>\n<p>The wording was perceived by many as dismissive not only toward a specific broadcast, but toward the entire body of analytical work around the scene. This is exactly what became the trigger for jL\u2019s response.<\/p>\n<h2><strong>jL: a hit at the analyst\u2019s reputation<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>The NAVI player did not choose soft wording and responded as directly as possible:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"custom-bq\"><div class=\"custom-bq-q\"><p>It\u2019s crazy that as the self-proclaimed BEST CS analyst in the world, you have done little to no analyzing in the past 5 years. Just admit you\u2019re not him lil bro.<\/p><\/div><\/blockquote>\n<p>This comment quickly gained thousands of likes and support from fans who have long criticized Thorin for shifting away from deep analysis toward showmanship and provocation.<\/p>\n<h2><strong>Thorin and the final jab<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>Thorin did not leave the reply unanswered, but limited himself to a short, sarcastic comment:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"custom-bq\"><div class=\"custom-bq-q\"><p>So same as you then :&gt;<\/p><\/div><\/blockquote>\n<p>At this point, the conflict had already gone beyond a professional discussion. jL responded even more harshly, effectively putting an end to the exchange:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"custom-bq\"><div class=\"custom-bq-q\"><p>But I admit I\u2019m shit, that\u2019s the difference between me and you, gramps.<\/p><\/div><\/blockquote>\n<h2><strong>Context: why this conflict matters<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>This exchange is notable for several reasons. First, it highlights the growing tension between active players and media analysts who increasingly operate in a personal-brand format rather than traditional expertise. Second, the community\u2019s reaction showed that a portion of the audience is becoming increasingly critical of the scene\u2019s old media figures.<\/p>\n\n<div class=\"article__content grid-cards-col xl-w-100\">\n    <p class=\"article-h3\">read more<\/p>\n    <div class=\"grid-1 gap-12 mb-12 load-parent xl-w-100\">\n        <div class=\"type3 y-red-dif hover-card card-more\">\n        <a class=\"type3__left up-to-card hover-el\" href=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/en\/news\/tedd-analyzes-nips-roster-shake-up\">\n        <div class=\"bg-bottom-abs-short\"> <\/div>\n        <picture class=\"picture object-fit-cover\">\n            <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"picture__img object-fit-cover\" src=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/Main-x-Name-112.jpg.webp\" alt=\"Tedd analyzes NIP\u2019s roster shake-up\">\n        <\/picture>\n    <\/a>\n        <div class=\"type3__right main-structure p-20\">\n        <div class=\"type3__top\">\n            <a class=\"type3__title title-24 hover-el\" href=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/en\/news\/tedd-analyzes-nips-roster-shake-up\">Tedd analyzes NIP\u2019s roster shake-up<\/a>\n            <a class=\"go-arrow hover-el\" href=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/en\/news\/tedd-analyzes-nips-roster-shake-up\">\n                <div class=\"go-arrow__left go-arrow__part\">\n                    <svg class=\"icon\" width=\"24\" height=\"24\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\">\n                        <use xlink:href=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/themes\/skinclub-v3\/assets\/images\/sprites\/main.stack.svg?v=1779703590#image-blue-arrow\"><\/use>\n                    <\/svg>\n                <\/div>\n                <div class=\"go-arrow__center go-arrow__part\">\n                    <svg class=\"icon\" width=\"24\" height=\"24\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\">\n                        <use xlink:href=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/themes\/skinclub-v3\/assets\/images\/sprites\/main.stack.svg?v=1779703590#image-blue-arrow\"><\/use>\n                    <\/svg>\n                <\/div>\n                <div class=\"go-arrow__right go-arrow__part\">\n                    <svg class=\"icon\" width=\"24\" height=\"24\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\">\n                        <use xlink:href=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/themes\/skinclub-v3\/assets\/images\/sprites\/main.stack.svg?v=1779703590#image-blue-arrow\"><\/use>\n                    <\/svg>\n                <\/div>\n            <\/a><\/div>\n        <div class=\"type3__bottom blue-labels mt-auto\">\n            <div class=\"blue-label disabled\">Feb 09<\/div>\n            <a class=\"blue-label\" href=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/en\/news\">News<\/a>        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n<\/div>    <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<h2><strong>Verbal duel<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/Thorin\/status\/2020546140219810139?s=20\">The verbal duel between<\/a> jL and Thorin is not just an exchange of insults on social media, but a reflection of a deeper generational conflict in CS. Active players are increasingly challenging the authorities of the past, and each such incident only intensifies the discussion about who has the right to shape the narrative in esports today.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Another public conflict has flared up in the CS community \u2014 this time between analyst Thorin and player jL. The trigger was criticism of a Counter-Strike broadcast segment, after which the sides quickly moved from irony to direct insults. Background Thorin, known for his sharp commentary style, published a post in which he spoke negatively [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":47,"featured_media":350242,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[15],"tags":[550,1631],"class_list":["post-350241","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news","tag-jl","tag-thorin"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>jL and Thorin exchange harsh remarks<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"A public conflict has erupted between jL and Thorin: sharp criticism of a CS broadcast, a response from the NAVI player, and an emotional verbal clash with personal attacks.\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/en\/news\/jl-and-thorin-exchange-harsh-remarks\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"jL and Thorin exchange harsh remarks\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"A public conflict has erupted between jL and Thorin: sharp criticism of a CS broadcast, a response from the NAVI player, and an emotional verbal clash with personal attacks.\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/en\/news\/jl-and-thorin-exchange-harsh-remarks\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"CS2 &amp; 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