{"id":373476,"date":"2026-03-21T19:54:34","date_gmt":"2026-03-21T19:54:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/?p=373476"},"modified":"2026-03-21T19:54:34","modified_gmt":"2026-03-21T19:54:34","slug":"thorin-pimp-question-navi-form-after-title","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/en\/news\/thorin-pimp-question-navi-form-after-title","title":{"rendered":"Thorin & Pimp: NAVI still not top tier despite win"},"content":{"rendered":"

Following NAVI\u2019s recent title win, analysts Duncan \u201cThorin\u201d Shields<\/a> and Jacob \u201cPimp\u201d Winneche offered a measured take on their current level in Counter-Points, stressing that one strong tournament does not automatically make them a top contender again. While acknowledging the team\u2019s deserved victory, they urged fans to look beyond the result and consider NAVI\u2019s broader form over recent months.<\/p>\n

Pimp: one title doesn\u2019t erase previous issues<\/h3>\n
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Pimp made it clear that he does not share the general hype surrounding NAVI. In his view, winning Pro League does not rewrite what the team has shown before.<\/p>\n

There\u2019s absolutely no way that Na\u2019Vi with one tournament at Pro League is all of a sudden rewriting what\u2019s been happening the last six months.<\/p><\/div><\/blockquote>\n

He noted that NAVI played well, beat every opponent in front of them, and deserve credit. But at the same time, it hasn\u2019t fundamentally changed how he evaluates the team.<\/p>\n

It didn\u2019t really change my perception of Na\u2019Vi.<\/p><\/div><\/blockquote>\n

According to Pimp, NAVI were favorites in their key playoff matches and simply did what a strong team is expected to do. That is why he is not ready to place them in the same tier as Spirit, MOUZ, or Falcons just yet:<\/p>\n

I wouldn\u2019t put them in the same category as Spirit, MOUZ, Falcons for that matter just yet.<\/p><\/div><\/blockquote>\n\n

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Thorin: NAVI took their chance, but the hype should be cooled down<\/h3>\n

Thorin shared a similar perspective. While he acknowledged NAVI\u2019s performance, he urged fans to stay realistic. In his opinion, NAVI benefited from a more favorable bracket than expected due to other top teams underperforming.<\/p>\n

We\u2019re going to bring the temperature down a little bit on Na\u2019Vi.<\/p><\/div><\/blockquote>\n

At the same time, he gave NAVI full credit for capitalizing on the opportunity. Where other favorites failed, NAVI delivered.<\/p>\n

The fair play about Na\u2019Vi is this. They did actually do what is necessary to do and they successfully convincingly won all these games.<\/p><\/div><\/blockquote>\n

In other words, the issue is not whether NAVI deserved the trophy \u2014 they did. The question is whether this win alone proves they are back at the very top.<\/p>\n

B1ad3 knew NAVI had to win this event<\/h3>\n
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One of the most revealing points came from Pimp, who shared insight from a conversation with NAVI\u2019s coach, Andrey \u201cB1ad3\u201d Gorodenskiy. According to him, the team fully understood the situation once they saw the bracket.<\/p>\n

As soon as he saw the bracket, the entire team sat down and they agreed we have to win this, like no excuse.<\/p><\/div><\/blockquote>\n

For Pimp, this showed maturity. NAVI didn\u2019t hide behind clich\u00e9s \u2014 they recognized the opportunity and delivered when it mattered.<\/p>\n

The key issue remains: firepower against top teams<\/h3>\n

Despite the positive aspects, both analysts agreed that NAVI\u2019s main limitation has not disappeared. The biggest concern remains their firepower when facing elite teams. Thorin pointed out that NAVI\u2019s floor is actually very strong \u2014 the team is structured, disciplined, and rarely collapses.<\/p>\n

I do think the floor of the team\u2019s really good.<\/p><\/div><\/blockquote>\n

However, that alone may not be enough against teams like Vitality or other top-tier contenders.<\/p>\n

If they really do play Vitality or some massive team in a big BO5 final, there\u2019s a lot of teams I do think would still beat them.<\/p><\/div><\/blockquote>\n

Pimp echoed that sentiment, noting that compared to teams like Spirit, Falcons, or Vitality, NAVI still lack a bit of raw firepower.<\/p>\n

makazze showed promise, but consistency is key<\/h3>\n
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Both analysts also highlighted makazze\u2019s performance as a major positive. However, they cautioned against overreacting to one standout tournament.<\/p>\n

Just give me like 80% of that or 90% of that regularly every two, three tournaments \u2014 now we can talk.<\/p><\/div><\/blockquote>\n

The key question is whether he can maintain that level. If he does, NAVI\u2019s firepower issue could be significantly reduced. For now, though, it remains a promising sign rather than a definitive solution.<\/p>\n

Wonderful, map pool improvements, and structure<\/h3>\n

Thorin also pointed out a few other encouraging aspects. He suggested that Wonderful may have delivered one of the best performances of his career in the final.<\/p>\n

That might have been the best game I\u2019ve ever seen Wonderful play.<\/p><\/div><\/blockquote>\n

Additionally, NAVI showed improvement on Mirage \u2014 previously a weak map \u2014 and looked more comfortable on Anubis. Still, both analysts stressed that these improvements need to be proven over time.<\/p>\n

At the same time, both Thorin and Pimp praised NAVI\u2019s structure, particularly the work of B1ad3 and his synergy with Aleksi \u201cAleksiB\u201d Virolainen. Pimp even described B1ad3 as one of the most valuable coaches in the game, while Thorin highlighted NAVI\u2019s exceptional use of timeouts and tactical adjustments.<\/p>\n\n

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Not a reason to panic \u2014 but not a reason to crown them either<\/h3>\n

Despite the critical tone, the overall conclusion was cautiously positive. Neither Thorin nor Pimp dismissed NAVI\u2019s victory. On the contrary, they acknowledged that the team did exactly what was required and deserved the title. However, their shared conclusion is clear: NAVI are once again a team worth taking seriously, but they have not yet proven that they can consistently compete with the very best.<\/p>\n

One trophy has put NAVI back into the conversation. Now they need to confirm it at upcoming events \u2014 only then will it become clear whether this was the beginning of a real resurgence or just a well-timed peak.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Following NAVI\u2019s recent title win, analysts Duncan \u201cThorin\u201d Shields and Jacob \u201cPimp\u201d Winneche offered a measured take on their current level in Counter-Points, stressing that one strong tournament does not automatically make them a top contender again. While acknowledging the team\u2019s deserved victory, they urged fans to look beyond the result and consider NAVI\u2019s broader […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":34,"featured_media":373478,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[15],"tags":[548,835,1631],"class_list":["post-373476","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news","tag-navi","tag-pimp","tag-thorin"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"\nThorin and Pimp question NAVI form despite recent title<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Thorin and Pimp react to NAVI title win, saying one strong event is not enough to prove they are back among top teams\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"noindex, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" 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