{"id":387462,"date":"2026-05-01T15:39:05","date_gmt":"2026-05-01T15:39:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/?p=387462"},"modified":"2026-05-01T15:39:05","modified_gmt":"2026-05-01T15:39:05","slug":"cs2-subtick-explained-limitations-study","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/en\/news\/cs2-subtick-explained-limitations-study","title":{"rendered":"CS2 Subtick Under Fire: Study Reveals Hidden Limitations"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The Counter-Strike community has once again turned its attention to subtick \u2014 but this time, not through player impressions, but through a deep technical analysis. A researcher known as eugenio8a8 has published an extensive paper on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/GlobalOffensive\/comments\/1szwgt5\/what_is_subtick_cs2_client_side_architecture\/?utm_source=share&amp;utm_medium=web3x&amp;utm_name=web3xcss&amp;utm_term=1&amp;utm_content=share_button\">Reddit<\/a>, breaking down the architecture of subtick in CS2, its determinism, and its fundamental limitations.<\/p>\n<h3>Subtick under the microscope: what is really happening in CS2<\/h3>\n<figure id=\"attachment_387464\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-387464\" style=\"width: 1896px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-387464\" src=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/what-is-subtick-cs2-client-side-architecture-determinism-v0-xz2rsn2jxbyg1.webp\" alt=\"\" width=\"1896\" height=\"898\" srcset=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/what-is-subtick-cs2-client-side-architecture-determinism-v0-xz2rsn2jxbyg1.webp 1896w, https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/what-is-subtick-cs2-client-side-architecture-determinism-v0-xz2rsn2jxbyg1-300x142.webp 300w, https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/what-is-subtick-cs2-client-side-architecture-determinism-v0-xz2rsn2jxbyg1-1024x485.webp 1024w, https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/what-is-subtick-cs2-client-side-architecture-determinism-v0-xz2rsn2jxbyg1-768x364.webp 768w, https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/what-is-subtick-cs2-client-side-architecture-determinism-v0-xz2rsn2jxbyg1-1536x727.webp 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1896px) 100vw, 1896px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-387464\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photo Copyright by r\/GlobalOffensive Reddit account<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>In his work, the author explains that subtick is not simply a \u201cbetter tickrate,\u201d but a fundamentally different approach to handling player inputs. The key idea is that the system offers extremely high temporal precision for input timing, but is limited in how often the simulation itself updates.<\/p>\n<p>According to the analysis, subtick:<\/p>\n<ul class=\"article-list-pink\">\n<li class=\"article-list-pink__item\">timestamps player inputs with very high precision<\/li>\n<li class=\"article-list-pink__item\">but advances the simulation in discrete steps tied to frame updates (FPS)<\/li>\n<li class=\"article-list-pink__item\">meaning multiple distinct inputs can be resolved within the same simulation update<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>This creates a phenomenon described as temporal aliasing \u2014 where the game effectively \u201csees\u201d less than what actually happens in time.<\/p>\n\n<div class=\"article__content grid-cards-col xl-w-100\">\n    <h3>read more<\/h3>\n    <div class=\"grid-1 gap-12 mb-12 load-parent xl-w-100\">\n        <div class=\"type3 y-red-dif hover-card card-more\">\n        <a class=\"type3__left up-to-card hover-el\" href=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/en\/news\/9ine-moved-cej0t-to-inactive-polish-player-left-the-starting-lineup\">\n        <div class=\"bg-bottom-abs-short\"> <\/div>\n        <picture class=\"picture object-fit-cover\">\n            <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"picture__img object-fit-cover\" src=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Cej0t_at_StarLadder_StarSeries_Fall_2025.jpg.webp\" alt=\"9INE Moved cej0t to Inactive: Polish Player Left the Starting Lineup\">\n        <\/picture>\n    <\/a>\n        <div class=\"type3__right main-structure p-20\">\n        <div class=\"type3__top\">\n            <a class=\"type3__title title-24 hover-el\" href=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/en\/news\/9ine-moved-cej0t-to-inactive-polish-player-left-the-starting-lineup\">9INE Moved cej0t to Inactive: Polish Player Left the Starting Lineup<\/a>\n            <a class=\"go-arrow hover-el\" 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class=\"icon\" width=\"24\" height=\"24\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\">\n                        <use xlink:href=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/themes\/skinclub-v3\/assets\/images\/sprites\/main.stack.svg?v=1777458943#image-blue-arrow\"><\/use>\n                    <\/svg>\n                <\/div>\n            <\/a><\/div>\n        <div class=\"type3__bottom blue-labels mt-auto\">\n            <div class=\"blue-label disabled\">May 01<\/div>\n            <a class=\"blue-label\" href=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/en\/news\">News<\/a>        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n<\/div>    <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<h3>Why 128 tick doesn\u2019t solve the issue<\/h3>\n<figure id=\"attachment_387463\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-387463\" style=\"width: 1910px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-387463\" src=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/what-is-subtick-cs2-client-side-architecture-determinism-v0-hq0morb9ybyg1.webp\" alt=\"\" width=\"1910\" height=\"1070\" srcset=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/what-is-subtick-cs2-client-side-architecture-determinism-v0-hq0morb9ybyg1.webp 1910w, https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/what-is-subtick-cs2-client-side-architecture-determinism-v0-hq0morb9ybyg1-300x168.webp 300w, https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/what-is-subtick-cs2-client-side-architecture-determinism-v0-hq0morb9ybyg1-1024x574.webp 1024w, https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/what-is-subtick-cs2-client-side-architecture-determinism-v0-hq0morb9ybyg1-768x430.webp 768w, https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/what-is-subtick-cs2-client-side-architecture-determinism-v0-hq0morb9ybyg1-1536x860.webp 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1910px) 100vw, 1910px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-387463\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photo Copyright by r\/GlobalOffensive Reddit account<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>One of the main conclusions of the study is that increasing tickrate (for example, to 128 tick) does not fix the core problem.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s because:<\/p>\n<ul class=\"article-list-pink\">\n<li class=\"article-list-pink__item\">the limitation is not in data transmission<\/li>\n<li class=\"article-list-pink__item\">but in the simulation architecture itself, which remains frame-dependent<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>In other words, even with higher tickrates, the game still processes states in discrete steps rather than continuously.<\/p>\n<h3>Determinism and FPS: unexpected findings<\/h3>\n<p>The author conducted multiple experiments using fixed-duration inputs (for example, holding forward for exactly 750 ms) and observed the following:<\/p>\n<ul class=\"article-list-pink\">\n<li class=\"article-list-pink__item\">at lower FPS \u2192 significantly higher variation in results<\/li>\n<li class=\"article-list-pink__item\">at higher FPS \u2192 outcomes become more consistent<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Even under identical conditions, results are not always identical, raising questions about true determinism. The paper suggests that subtick becomes deterministic only when:<\/p>\n<ul class=\"article-list-pink\">\n<li class=\"article-list-pink__item\">the simulation update rate (FPS) exceeds the timestamp precision<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3>Core conclusion: the issue runs deeper<\/h3>\n<figure id=\"attachment_387465\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-387465\" style=\"width: 1910px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-387465\" src=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/what-is-subtick-cs2-client-side-architecture-determinism-v0-zsxb1ad5zbyg1.webp\" alt=\"\" width=\"1910\" height=\"1070\" srcset=\"https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/what-is-subtick-cs2-client-side-architecture-determinism-v0-zsxb1ad5zbyg1.webp 1910w, https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/what-is-subtick-cs2-client-side-architecture-determinism-v0-zsxb1ad5zbyg1-300x168.webp 300w, https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/what-is-subtick-cs2-client-side-architecture-determinism-v0-zsxb1ad5zbyg1-1024x574.webp 1024w, https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/what-is-subtick-cs2-client-side-architecture-determinism-v0-zsxb1ad5zbyg1-768x430.webp 768w, https:\/\/community.skin.club\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/what-is-subtick-cs2-client-side-architecture-determinism-v0-zsxb1ad5zbyg1-1536x860.webp 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1910px) 100vw, 1910px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-387465\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photo Copyright by r\/GlobalOffensive Reddit account<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The key takeaway from the research is:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"custom-bq\"><div class=\"custom-bq-q\"><p>Subtick improves input ordering and precision, but it does not change the fundamental nature of simulation \u2014 it remains step-based.<\/p><\/div><\/blockquote>\n<p>This means:<\/p>\n<ul class=\"article-list-pink\">\n<li class=\"article-list-pink__item\">CS2 can measure time more precisely than it can resolve it<\/li>\n<li class=\"article-list-pink__item\">the real solution would require decoupling simulation from frame updates<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>In the long term, this could lead to asynchronous or sub-step simulation, where game state updates independently of FPS.<\/p>\n<h3>Community reaction and author\u2019s stance<\/h3>\n<p>In follow-up discussions on X, the author emphasized that comparing subtick directly to traditional tickrate systems is misleading:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"custom-bq\"><div class=\"custom-bq-q\"><p>It\u2019s like comparing oranges to apples\u2026 but in my opinion, subtick is a superior system.<\/p><\/div><\/blockquote>\n<p>The discussion quickly gained traction, as subtick remains one of the most debated aspects of CS2.<\/p>\n\n<div class=\"article__content grid-cards-col xl-w-100\">\n    <h3>read more<\/h3>\n    <div class=\"grid-1 gap-12 mb-12 load-parent xl-w-100\">\n       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